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How to Break Through Barriers and Find Your Inner Enlightened Warrior | Kooler Lifestyle Podcast 32 ft. Kevin Cundiff

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00:00:00 Matthew Kuehlhorn
So, enlightened warrior, how would you define what you guys have done and do for people?

00:00:11 Kevin Cundiff
Well, let’s see. What choke people out. We beat them up and then all. You mean a little?

00:00:17 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, I read them for when outsiders perspective. That’s exactly what it looks like. What is going on?

00:00:24 Kevin Cundiff
I know, alright.

00:00:26 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Welcome to the Kooler Lifestyle podcast. I’m your host, Matt Kuehlhorn, and I’m excited to have you join me as I interview community members and business leaders from the communities in which I live, work, and serve through my business Kooler garage doors, we’re going to bring you highlights on characters in our communities. Why? Because Community matters, and I want to know more about who is behind our business and leadership in order to understand and support the Community fabric. That our relationships make up and collectively we can build stronger communities that support our lifestyles, our youth and our health. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Kooler Lifestyle Podcast. I’m your host, Matt Kuehlhorn. Today, I have an incredibly special guest. His name is Kevin Cundiff. Kevin, I’m really excited for this conversation. We already had a little warm up convo, but we have not seen each other in person since 2011. How are you doing today?

00:01:27 Kevin Cundiff
Crazy. I’m awesome, brother. It’s another glorious day in Paradise here in South.

00:01:33 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Florida, yeah, you’re beaming in Hollywood Beach area, is that right?

00:01:37 Kevin Cundiff
Yep, awesome. Windows are open, shorts are on. Put a T-shirt on for this. Podcasts. Ohh, gotta get dressed OK. That’s great.

00:01:51 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, there we’re we’re up here in a in a spring snowstorm. So I’ve I’m a little envious. I would love to beam around real quick and hit some 70 degree beach weather per minute.

00:02:01 Kevin Cundiff
Yeah, I was just talking to a friend of mine. She’s in Calgary. She has ice in her hair right now. She’s sending a picture. She was walking. Her dog was minus 15. Leave that Celsius. But yeah, still, anything with the negative in front of it. Yeah, this.

00:02:16 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, this flurry is staying.

00:02:17 Kevin Cundiff
Away from that, like, have fun. Good.

00:02:19 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Luck. Sure. That’s awesome. Well, for the listeners that don’t know, Kevin, you and I connected in what you’re wearing is the brand of the enlightened warrior camp. In 2011 I went down this path that really started opening up. My life in in so many different ways and. You and I I think really connected during what is referenced as a back off drill. And it just created this almost immediate transformation, but then it just keeps delaying it. It’s almost like. You know, I look at, I look at the life. The journey of life is like delayering the onion, right? And coming into that year for me was a version of Matt that was really immature. And not owning my life. And I had my baby girl was a year and a half of that time, now 13 years old and my boy. Was going to be born in September and I think we probably had that Warrior camp in August or. Maybe, maybe the summer time, but super transformational and. I want to tee that up and I want to come back to that, but first I want to dive a little bit of context on you, Kevin. And I wanted to get an understanding of how you got into this type of work and if you want to mind, can we kick off with just talking about where you grew up?

00:03:48 Kevin Cundiff
Sure. I I grew up in Nashville, TN. I was there for 32 years and then I worked for American Airlines and I’m in with them for, my God, 37 years and still with them. That sounds so crazy to even say. And I’m on the route, so I’m in baggage, OK? And so when American Airlines said, hey, you need to hit the street or? Pick a new city and first they coming back to part time. So I saved their part time, started a construction company and started building steel frame cones. Got one home built and the American continued to cut. And that’s when they said hey hit the street or go to another city and chose my. I was like, well, if I believe in family and friends, I want to be in shorts and T-shirt. Every day it’s like. Bye bye winter. All of it’s incredible, yeah. And so a friend of mine. Had said. Hey, you gotta go check this millionaire mind intensive out, yeah. And I was like, OK, cool, when is it? And he’s like it’s coming back in the summer or the the wind. It’s all into it. Never heard of TR Vecker and never read the book. Secrets of the millionaire mind. Yeah, yeah. Reference that. And then I attended and went warrior training camp. In 2007, in 2008, I went back to Carmel Cruise. Which is volunteering. To staff it. And then I get thrown into the predicament piece that you and I.

00:05:22 Matthew Kuehlhorn

00:05:23 Kevin Cundiff
Get to that later, yeah. Anyway, might get us off track. Here a little bit. And so. Ohh. I didn’t want to do it. I was terrified. I was literally scared because of what those guys in the predicament team do. I was like, I can’t do that. That’s not me. And so they bugged the crap out of me. And So what I’d like to do is like, when something like scares me, that’s like just go through it full force, just us. Like, OK, I’ll do it. I’ll do it. I’ll do it. You won’t shut up. Leave me alone, Shane Mikolowski. I’ll do it. I was like. And. I want to do all the camps. I’m not just going to go do one. Because we would do it in New York, California and British Columbia. I was like, I’m gonna do it all because at the time there was two channel, one that was teaching it, one would do it on the East Coast, one went on the West Coast. And I was like, I want to learn from both. And it was just been so incredible. It’s like one of the best decisions I ever did.

00:06:29 Matthew Kuehlhorn
It’s amazing. It’s how I.

00:06:30 Kevin Cundiff

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00:07:11 Matthew Kuehlhorn
So in that journey, I mean do you have a martial arts background or?

00:07:16 Kevin Cundiff
You do?

00:07:18 Matthew Kuehlhorn
You do? Does that come in from childhood?

00:07:21 Kevin Cundiff
Yeah, I started. I signed up for Taekwondo lessons the day after I graduated high school, OK, and got into that. Got my second. Degree black belt and then got hired only the American Airlines at 19 years old and they just started working like crazy and traveling the world and it’s kind of like. Yeah, OK. That was. Cool with martial arts? Let’s just travel. Be a 19 year old goofball kid that’s got free flight passes, you know? What you. Want to do this weekend? Let’s go run with the Bulls in Spain, you know, hey, there’s a car show in Paris. Hey, let’s go to Australia. You know, just like every every month we would just go somewhere major. And. Ah, what a ride. What a journey it has been.

00:08:06 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, that’s amazing.  So enlightened warrior, how would you define what you guys have done and do for people?

00:08:18 Kevin Cundiff
Well, let’s see. What choke people out. We beat them up and then all. You mean a little? Yeah, read them. For an outsiders perspective. That’s exactly what it looks like. What is going on? I know, alright. Assessment. While the lessons behind all of that, I’m gonna I’m going on airplane mode now. I forgot to go, OK, I’m wonderful with me this year. I didn’t get left out. It’s helping people, really. Reach their true potential. There’s so much. Baggage that we tell ourselves as far as we can. Not good enough. And just so much static in her brain. Yeah. And then like we’re trying to camp kind of helps peel away one of those layers to where we really get through our true essence and meet that enlightened warrior that’s. Within all of us. And we do it through some very.

00:09:13 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Unique processes, yeah, yeah. I mean, it’s transformational work and I’m gonna test that. Having gone through that.

00:09:21 Kevin Cundiff
Ohh. Yeah, I loved it so much. I was like, I’m going to Malaysia to do this work. Barcelona just it’s, it’s. And not being able to do it for the past couple of years because of the scam being the planned, the hand damage, it’s like. Yeah. OK, now I’m really missing. It’s like, OK, I haven’t been doing it for two years. It’s. Right. That’s when I’m like happiest like somebody else said hey, what are you happiest? This like when I have on an event staff T-shirt and I’m Carmen crewing giving back or when I’m in that Kung Fu Gee and. Choking somebody to life. See, that’s like just ultimate high for me.

00:10:03 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah. That’s amazing, man. Um. So kind of adding to this story, you know, I went through that. You were one of the facilitators they are in. I remember a dozen plus facilitators and in the one back off drill. We had spaced out in a big conference room and. Each individual was to walk as if they were walking through the park with somebody that they loved and really wanted to protect. Right? At that time, I was a very new father. My baby girl in that scenario was a year and a half, right? And I walked up to you and we had this engagement. And your role in this is to really understand who’s coming at you in order to stir up some shit. And yeah. And to get a trigger style reaction. So that, and this is just my kind of interpretation so that you know, I as it the person in that experience could drop further into my being to where there is absolute power and what I learned in that moment was the power of setting boundary. And so there was no physical altercation and that wasn’t the point. The point was to drop so low and have such a no that it just meant like. We’re still like, this dude ain’t gonna mess with me anymore, like.

00:11:36 Kevin Cundiff
Dude, I’ve got goosebumps right now. It was so awesome. That’s one of the things I love the most is when I get to see somebody drop into their. Heart and know. That that’s where our power comes from. You know, everybody could be you know physical and loud and it’s not really that much power behind that but with so many tunes in to that heart space dude, I’m just like blown away and. You can feel it too, immediately. Like Susie shipped it on like, yeah, that’s right. That right there, feel that because it was, it was incredible. Yeah. And I don’t remember all of the hundreds that I’ve done through, but I do recall yours. Yeah, specific.

00:12:16 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, which is which is pretty amazing and special and we haven’t I mean for all the listeners you and I, we’ve we’ve stayed together through Facebook primarily and and maintain this connection. But it goes back to that day, that moment in time and there were other experiences in that facilitated course. I mean that was a few days long. So there was the the choked out experience and that was. Pretty amazing and transformational for me as well. And then you know, the other one I remember was like I don’t know what you guys called it, but there was just a field of. Big ass dudes that were martial arts and I had to run through them like.

00:12:56 Kevin Cundiff
Walk in the park.

00:12:57 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Walk in the park, wasn’t it? At that point, you know, I had gone through the back off drill, gone through the choked out experience, gone through the other experiences. I was like, this is nothing like charging. It’s so good.

00:13:12 Kevin Cundiff
Barrass man ohh so.

00:13:14 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Awesome. Yeah, so awesome. And you mentioned like everybody has this warrior and so. You know, I continue to study and I think that that time frame in my life and and potentially that experience along with everything else that was going on like started my awakening. And as I generate, there’s there is real power within this being of of Matt, right. And as I keep going down you know I start identifying archetypes and so the warrior is definitely an archetype that I’ve engaged with. And after this warrior experience that’s when I started boxing and getting into like hand to hand combat kind of stuff because I was like yeah. You know, I think. The realm of masculinity and femininity and masculinity for me, you know, being raised by a single mom and getting messages, you know, in the 80s and the 90s and it still happens today of, you know, masculinity potentially being dangerous and, you know, wanting to to please mom. And this is some of the conditioning, some of that junk that gets stuck in our head that starts to get broken up in this type of experience and all of a sudden it’s like. Whoa. Who am I really in remembering? Right. Remembering the power that we each as individuals have is really, really special. And breaking up that conditioning to understand who we really are, to bring our full force in because everybody has some kind of a gift, something special.

00:14:54 Kevin Cundiff

00:14:54 Matthew Kuehlhorn
The world needs.

00:14:56 Kevin Cundiff
Everybody has a unique gift to bring to the world. You know, they’re the only person with that unique talent, yeah.

00:15:02 Matthew Kuehlhorn

00:15:03 Kevin Cundiff
Let it shine, baby shine that year.

00:15:05 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Sure, let it shine.

00:15:07 Kevin Cundiff
I think Doctor Wayne Dyer said it best. Don’t die with your music inside of you. You know, you gotta write that song out and share it with the world.

00:15:14 Matthew Kuehlhorn
I love that. Well, let me ask you this, man. Um, a lot of those experiences were super experiential. But for anybody listening that might be hooked on this conversation, like what might somebody be able to do, even if it’s on their own, they could help start. Umm. Either call it the awakening or eroding some of the condition. I mean it’s an ongoing journey I think. What are their daily practices that you engage with or are there different clearings or different activities that? You can share without, you know, you being there to choke them out or. Twitch.

00:16:00 Kevin Cundiff
I’m open to everything and attached to nothing. Yeah, I think that’s what works best for me because I don’t have such a belief where like this is. The right way, you know, because I could be missing something that’s completely. 180 degrees opposite over here, just like, so transformative.

00:16:20 Matthew Kuehlhorn

00:16:21 Kevin Cundiff
So I’m constantly reading. Just just open, just pouring in. Podcasts all the time. I don’t listen to anything but a podcast in the car. When I’m driving back and forth, there’s no music. It’s like, I just gotta be. Knowledge. Knowledge. Not just. I guess that’s the sagittarian and the insatiable desire for knowledge, yeah. I love being outside barefoot, grounded in the sand. I’m constantly in my backyard. It’s a jungle. I live on the canal with ocean access, so just being able to get the boat and go play in the ocean, it’s. You gotta do what feeds the soul. And I have to do it feeds my soul, you know? And part of that is just nature. Learning and helping others, that’s like I’m doing something for everybody on the street, basically chopping a tree limb or whatever. So yeah, just live, love and give, you know?

00:17:19 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Live, love and give love that is that is that what’s going to go on your tombstone?

00:17:26 Kevin Cundiff
Deep. No, it’s gonna say I did. I told you I was cynical.

00:17:35 Matthew Kuehlhorn
With the ship.

00:17:40 Kevin Cundiff
Pops. I’ll probably have a big cremated. And so here in Florida they they can mix your ashes and turn it into like a starfish and then there’s like a fake coral.

00:17:57 Matthew Kuehlhorn
We kidding.

00:17:58 Kevin Cundiff
That’s just bought.

00:18:00 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, yeah so.

00:18:02 Kevin Cundiff
Yeah, that’s how I probably won’t have it too. So what if I did? That’s what I would. Say told you I wouldn’t feel right. Yeah, I was sick.

00:18:10 Matthew Kuehlhorn
That’s hilarious.

00:18:13 Kevin Cundiff
Ohh, gotta have fun man. Gotta laugh. Got shit likes too freaking short to be. Visible. Maybe I’ll explain that miserable out in the world there, but hey, there’s usually something good in there. You just gotta dig a little bit deeper to find it.

00:18:28 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Well, one of the things you mentioned and and I don’t know where this came from for you necessarily, but you had, you had mentioned you know the. The recognition of fear and seeing that and being like, yeah, I’m going through that. Like whatever realizes fear is one of the unique things that actually gets smaller the closer you get to it. And so we can make it this big thing and keep it far away and never touch it, but as soon as we make a decision, be like. That. Nope. I’m going in it. It can actually be nothing like.

00:19:02 Kevin Cundiff
Fear. FEAR. False evidence appearing real. Yeah, hit it. Like public speaking. Most people are terrified of public speak, you know, like OHS. That is a bigger fear over death so they would rather die than speech in public. It’s so peak potentials had a course called tree the trainer. Yeah, and I wouldn’t did that because I was like. Alright, I’ve got it. Because when I attended the million remind intensive I was on the front row and there was 3500 at my people at my MMR. Yeah hang on here. And there was on my 40th birthday got a birthday today I just raised my right come up on stage. I’m good, I’m good. I don’t wanna alright. I’m good, I’m good. I don’t really care. Ohh come dragging me up there. Alright, here we go. 3500 people singing Happy Birthday, arms out. And it was like something you’d be. On hang. Whoa. What was that? Yeah, you know, so. I went and did train. The trainer became a assistant trainer with peak potentials. And that could be a very dangerous. Drug right there that. Admiration. Those accolades that can feed the ego. And I was like, I got kind of scared of that. It was like, holy crap, now I know why. Like celebrities the way they are, and some can like overdose and do stupid stuff, because they’re not. They’re no longer getting that that recognition and that love and respect, admiration that we all desire. So that was a great awakening for me. Just to see. That also. Don’t go well. Conquer that fear of like public speaking. Whatever. But OK. Yeah, it’s it’s wild. So if you see something that kind of startles you, take a little, get it, it’s closer to it, and then just run. Through it,

00:21:01 Matthew Kuehlhorn
yeah. Yeah. Sometimes it’s not fear, it’s just excitement.

00:21:05 Kevin Cundiff
Exactly. We. Confuse

00:21:07 Matthew Kuehlhorn
a similar emotion feeling.

00:21:09 Kevin Cundiff
Yeah. Pupils dilated, sweaty palms, elevated heart rate. It’s like, well, yeah, that happens with both of those things. I just need to change it from fear to. Excitement.

00:21:19 Matthew Kuehlhorn
That’s right. That’s right. What do you what do you think of how, how would Kevin define failure?

00:21:28 Kevin Cundiff
I don’t know if there really is such a thing as failure. I think people label that as, you know all. You didn’t do what you set out to do. You didn’t achieve what you attempted to achieve, yeah.

00:21:40 Matthew Kuehlhorn

00:21:40 Kevin Cundiff
Really if we look at it, there’s lessons and learnings in that that we can take from that failure and then apply that. And if we continue on, that can just be a stepping stone to the next level on down the path of life. So. Failure is just a. Another chance to start over with knowledge.

00:22:04 Matthew Kuehlhorn
I love that. I love that. When I went.

00:22:08 Kevin Cundiff
Into don’t give up on yourself and all, but you’ll lose. So go. Quit. You know now, yeah. You learn what not to do. Yeah, or. A better way to. Do it,

00:22:19 Matthew Kuehlhorn
yeah. Can you imagine one year olds like giving up on themselves, learning how to walk? Well, yeah.

00:22:27 Kevin Cundiff
That’s the best. You learn so much from kids because they won’t stop. At anything?

00:22:32 Matthew Kuehlhorn
No. They. wont

00:22:32 Kevin Cundiff
Want you ought to know that being a parent. Yeah. Daddy. Daddy. Daddy. Daddy. Look. Daddy. Daddy. You know, mommy. Mommy, mommy. Look, mommy, mommy. But keep on till it’s like they get that ice.

00:22:41 Matthew Kuehlhorn
before totally best sales operator, yeah.

00:22:47 Kevin Cundiff

00:22:47 Matthew Kuehlhorn
I told you no 12 times and you got me on the 13th. What made you ask again? And like. I just. Wanted ice cream

00:22:57 Kevin Cundiff
Ohh that’s easy.

00:22:59 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, that that year of 2011. So you know I went to. Here’s here’s the full picture and and the reason why I ask about failure. And this is an interesting part of Matt’s story for anybody that. Actually listens to these things, but in 2011. I guess here we had a one year old baby girl and my wife was pregnant with our boy Taj and he was to be born in September. So I went to the millionaire mindset like the free seminar that was in Denver and I drove out there. And I go in and I’m like hook, line, sinker, buying everything. I put it on, I put on my credit card, and I’m I’m playing such an interesting game, the version of Matt, that I can’t really talk about it. And it’s it’s fascinating to look back, but what I did there was make a commitment to go to all the other courses that peak potentials was offering. And so I flew to flew to LA multiple times. Luckily, I had a great friend there, so I’d have my lodging set, but I’m putting all of my expenses on my credit card. Yeah, I get back from that weekend. Now during the course of that weekend, my wife sends me the heartbeat of Taj. And the first time I hear the heartbeat was like over a voicemail. I’m just like out in the parking lot, I’m, I’m bawling. I just made this huge commitment of like 15 K that I didn’t have money for. I’m just putting on my credit card because I had credit. No credit card debt at the beginning of the year, zero credit card debt at the beginning of the year. And I throw down and I’m balling. I’m like, I’m walking out with tea harvesters, boxes of books because I want to go sell them and. There is like. It’s like it’s best. Yeah. You know, I go through course, by course by course. I meet you, go through the enlightened warrior that starts delayering some of the conditioned thoughts that I had around everything, what it meant to be successful, how you know, being a father, husband, all things. I meet Keith Cunningham. He comes on to the stage. I can’t look him in the eye. Like I always try to get up on the front row and be really close to the stage. I always made a game for myself to get on stage and first time I met Keith Cunningham, like he eyeballs me from the stage and I just can’t hold his gaze because I’m playing such a. Interesting, immature game. And that dude’s a freaking rock. All amazing. Cross yeah, like damn I. Gotta go work with this guy. So I put down another 20 K and I go down to Austin. And the second time in Austin I get to work with them. It’s a very small class of 22 people and it’s a mentorship course. He runs four days and he goes person by person by person. I walk in on the third day and he knows it and I know it. He’s standing at the door. He’s like, Matt, you ready? I was up all of the night, like trying to just delayed cause. Now at this point. It’s August. My boys gonna be born in September. I’ve got like. 4050K on my credit card that I built up in six months. And I’m earning 30K a year at a local nonprofit. So it’s like this, this day of reckoning for Matt in front of Keith Cunningham and that dude is just gold. And so it it goes all way down and ultimately I made this decision. To file Chapter 7. And so in some ways like ultimate failure kind of thing and in other ways, you know, now that there’s like this stretch of time 11 years like, I still reference the learning that I had from all these different experiences, certainly from the from the camps to working with different mentors, right. And it’s just like. Yeah, there really is no failure. Part of the journey for whatever. Reason. I had to go through that, make those decisions, and I mean to look back on it now. Like I’d say it played out pretty freaking well. But in the moment. Like, wow.

00:27:13 Kevin Cundiff
Yeah, it can be like this is the suckiest time of my life. There. What for and. For me, it only gets better every time, no matter what situation go through a horrible breakup. Hey, Ali got better. , credible or whatever, you know, job can apply that to any area of your life. It only gets better. Yeah, it only gets better.

00:27:42 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, yeah.

00:27:43 Kevin Cundiff
I got stage four cancer. Great. You die. You’re back in spirit. You no longer pay. You only got back.

00:27:49 Matthew Kuehlhorn
No, I told you I wasn’t feeling well. Ohh. Ohh my goodness.

00:27:56 Kevin Cundiff
Ohh shoot. That’s awesome. Keep going. And rots, man. So keys to the ball you titted, keys to the ball.

00:28:03 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Well, I went to his four day MBA. First course and then he had a mentorship course back then, doesn’t have it anymore. And then, you know, so then I just kind of stay in touch and I I keep reading his books the last two years as super psyched. I got to go down to Austin and work with him again. He does a planner, gets slaughtered every fall. And last year was his last live one. So he’s gotten to the point in his life where he’s closing the chapter on his live events. And the last two years, they’ve just been absolute cold. But yeah, he’s he’s solid.

00:28:40 Kevin Cundiff
His wife Sandy’s beautiful too.

00:28:41 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Love her.

00:28:42 Kevin Cundiff
Yeah, he’s awesome.

00:28:44 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, man, they’re.

00:28:45 Kevin Cundiff
They’re both just so grounded and down to earth and salt of the Earth people. Yeah, you crowd.

00:28:51 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, and this stuff.

00:28:52 Kevin Cundiff
Is funny. He’s hilarious.

00:28:54 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Oh my God. It is so, so good.

00:29:02 Kevin Cundiff
I miss all that stuff man. I’m so grateful that they had all of those courses. And yeah, ohh yeah, this crowd. Yeah, I I was Carmen crew and volunteering so much in California. I was out there like. At least every month, sometimes twice a month that people thought I live in California. Like where you live, I live in Hollywood, FL. What, you don’t live out in California now? What are you doing now? You’re outside. I’ve got my passive income set up in my rental properties and I work for American Airlines. I fly for free. So it’s like I’ve just wherever I need to be, you know, able to create that freedom where it’s just like go, go and get back. That was that was the most heart fulfilling. Karamali, if ever it’s just like I said, I’m in that event staff T-shirt.

00:29:48 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Give them.

00:29:49 Kevin Cundiff
Happy they’re just blissed out.

00:29:52 Matthew Kuehlhorn
I love it, Kevin. I am sure we could hang out and chat for hours and hours, but we’re going to put a little bow tie on this conversation. As we as we sign off, I’m curious, um, who is inspiring you these days? What are some of those podcasts that you love?

00:30:10 Kevin Cundiff
There’s a few right now. Sean Ryan. He is a former Navy SEAL. And slash CIA contractor, he had this. Incredible guests. It’s not just war stories anymore. Mike Ritland, he’s another Navy SEAL. Jocko Willink, he’s another Navy SEAL. Wow. Certainly a pattern here. Then there’s. There’s Chris boss. He wrote a book called Never Split The Difference, and he has. A lot of YouTube videos. He didn’t really have a podcast that I’m aware of, but I watch or listen to all of his YouTube videos. Tom Bilyeu, impact theory. Yeah, incredible guests. Yeah. Yeah, those are like.

00:30:56 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Taking notes.  yeah. I love it, man. Is there anything you want to close out with? Any final words you wanna leave?

00:31:06 Kevin Cundiff
Thank you for reaching out, brother. I’m proud of you. I love you, man. All the best to you, the fan. Will definitely cross paths in the future and everybody else out there listening. God bless you, man. Stay strong. Keep cranking it out. Shine that light.

00:31:22 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, Kevin, I really appreciate how you show up in the world. I appreciate the gifts that you’ve brought me personally and I know others and it’s super fun. Or connect with you again. We’ll be in touch.

00:31:33 Kevin Cundiff
With larger mother, stay in touch.

00:31:36 Matthew Kuehlhorn
Yeah, man. Alright, enjoy your day. Alright.